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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 104 of 262 1809
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1 Mexico?
2 A. That would have been 1993.
3 Q. And about when do you remember starting to fly to S
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1991 and 2019.
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 99 of 262 1804
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 98 of 262 1803
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 97 of 262 1802
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 93 of 262
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1 THE COURT: Thank you. You may turn to 3E
2 Q. Thank you, Mrs. Hesse.
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 88 of 262 1793
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 89 of 262 1794
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1 A. I believe so.
2 Q. And is the first name Carolyn, C-A-R-O-L-Y-N?
3 A. That's correct.
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If someone called,
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 65 of 262 1770
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 64 of 262 1769
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work do you do now?
I work with the elderly. I'm also a teacher
Where did you work in approximately 2003?
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Q. And in that meeting,
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 61 of 262 1766
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 59 of 262 1764
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that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. And you would occasionally answer the phone and it would
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A. Very rarely.
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
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Were you arrested in Louisiana in 2015
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 55 of 262 1760
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 54 of 262 1759
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 _~ Filed 08/10/22
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Epstein's house?
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 47 of 262 1752
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1 Q. Did Carolyn tell you that woman's name?
2 A. Maxwell.
3 Q. Did Carolyn say anything about that woma
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did you meet anyone at his house?
COMEY: Can we pull up what's in evidence as
Drescher.
Frey and Sarah, did Carolyn mention
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 45 of 262 1750
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1 As [ would tell Carolyn and set the appointment for her.
2 Q. Do you remember what your phone number
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 43 of 262 1748
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Q. After that first time, did you go with Carolyn to Jeffrey
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 41 of 262
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 39 of 262 1744
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 37 of 262 1742
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1 Government 823 in redacted form to the public and in sealed
2 Form for the jury in order to protect
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THE COURT:
RECROSS EXAMINATIO
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