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2 Q. Do you recall meeting or seeing anyone with Carolyn's full
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 99 of 247
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COURT: Members of the jury, I guess it ended up
"re getting your steps in.
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Document 743
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1 Traverse City, Michigan?
2 A. That's correct.
3 Q. That's the closest airport?
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1 female if we didn't catch a name.
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1 the plane and he didn't want you to see that, he probably would
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BY MR. EVERDELL:
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LBUVMAX2
Document 743
Visoski
Filed 08/10/22 Page 60 of 247 1
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1 A. Correct. I didn't know anybody's, you know, exact age or
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