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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761
Filed 08/10/22
Page 172 of 246 2467
LCGVMA
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 166 of 246
LCGVMAX5 Loftu
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LCGVMAX5
Q. Right. And over time,
right?
A. Correct.
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX5
trials, right?
A. In 50 years, yes.
Q. The
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX5
A.
That is a quote,
Document 761
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LCGVMAX5
Avs Yes.
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to of you
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761
LCGVMAX5
defense, yes.
Loftus - cross
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX5
Q. About 1,000
A. Well, I don't
times?
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761
Filed 08/10/22
Page 159 of 246 2454
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX5
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 154 of 246 2449
LCGCma
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX5
Q.
context 01
BY MS. STERNHE
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGCmax4 Loftus
pleasant lunch. We're going to
THE COURT: Thank you,
Document 761
examination of professor Loftu
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 135 of 246 2430
LCGCmax4 Loftus - direct
the problem is when you have post-event suggestion or
intervention, people get very confid
Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761
Filed 08/10/22
Page 134 of 246
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LCGCmax4 Loftus — direct
1 Q. Outside of the laboratory, is there any way of proving that
2 someone has an actual memory?
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761 ~—_—~ Filed 08/10/22
LCGCmax4 Loftus — dire
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 132 of 246 2427
LCGCmax4 Loftus - direct
Post-event somebody could supply post-ev
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761
LCGCmax4 Loftus
MS. POMERANTZ: Objection,
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGCmax4
Document 761
Lo
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGCmax4
A. Correct.
Q. You just mentioned the suggesti
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LCGCmax4
you've seen a horrible traf
par
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 126 of 246 2421
LCGCmax4 Loftus - direct
it's faded and weakened, it becomes more vulnerable to
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761
Filed 08/10/22
Page 125 of 246 2420
LCGCmax4 Loftus — direct
Q. So in connection with the
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Filed 08/10/22
LCGCmax4 Loftus - direct
A. Yes.
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGCmax4
Document 761
Loftus
Filed 08/10/22
—- direct
Page 123 of 246
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1 sometimes they're witnesses, and they're not the victim
2 themselves, but --
3 Q. Now, after
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
Document 761
Loftus
Filed 08/10/22
—- direct
Page 120 of 246
LCGCmax4
BY MS. STERNHEIM:
Q. And have you testifi
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX3
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LCGVMAX3
animals,
Document 761 ‘Filed 08/10/22 Page 116 of 246 2411
Loftus - dire
Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 117 of 246 2412
LCGVMAX3 Loftus — direct
1 those babies, something that you see in these claims of satanic
2 rituals, for example.
3 Q. Dr. Loft
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761
LCGVMAX3
Loftus - direc
Filed 08/10/22
Page 112
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX3
commencement and receive it,
yet happened.
QO. Let'
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LCGVMAX3 Loftus — direct
1 A. That would be helpful, yes.
2 MS. STERNHEIM: With the Court's permission, I would
3 ask that Dr.
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LCGVMAX3
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Document 761 ‘Filed 08/10/22 Page 1
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LCGVMAX3 Sud - direct
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Document 761 ‘Filed 08/10/22 Page 97 of 246 2392
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LCGVMAX3 Sud -— direct
1 that profile customer?
2 A. Yes, they do.
3 Q. Okay. Do you ever have a profile for someone named
1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 95 of 246 2390
Sud - direct
records include information about the
How is the information from the invoices or any other
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LCGVMAX3
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LCGVMAX3
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE
LCGVMAX3
As
Document 761
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