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1 knew beforehand in the brief, right?
2 A. No, that's not accurate.
E| Q. Didn't you tell us a few moments ago t
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Q. Who initiated that discussion?
A. I can't recall who i
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1 suspension report, she did not characterize it in that way.
2 All she said was there was a suspended lawye
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1 Q. You knew from the voir dire, didn't you, that the Catherine
2 Conrad who sat as Juror No. 1 referred to being
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i. AS Yes.
2 Q. Were you involved in the drafting of the facts section of
3 the brief?
4 A. I edited that sec
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to think of it, at one point we knew there was a
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memo that had been put together and the link to
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A. I don't believe the suspension report
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i trial; Goreeek?
2 A. Yes.
3 Q. Do you remember who was on those e-mail exchanges that
4 identified Robert
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1 put together and the Westlaw report,
a QO. At what point did you become familiar with the fact that
3 your own
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1 A. Subsequent to the July 15th conference.
2 QO. Can you put a date on that?
3 A. Actually, I'm not sure wh
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L A. I'm not sure I understand --
Z MR. SCHECTMAN: May I be heard? I object to same name
3 for her father. No
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had subsequently looked at a Westlaw report that led her to
send an e-mail to somebody else i
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1 Trzaskoma take?
2 A. Five minutes.
5 Q. And I think you said earlier, let me take you through this
4 again,
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which was the information that we had and Ms. C
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Catherine Conrad, you have another Catherine Conrad. Can you
take some simple steps to try to investigat
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uf A. -- the plaza. Susan Brune, Theresa Trzaskoma and I were
2 walking across Centre Street and I recall that Ther
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A. Yes.
Q. Is it not true, Ms, Edelstein, that on May 12, Theresa
Trzaskoma, your partner, came to you
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fl Q. And none of these pieces of information would have been
2 important to you, is that what you're saying?
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QO. Further down, under "Addresses" it has a B
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1 immigration judge, her father, correct?
2 A. I certainly read that in the email that we produced.
3 Q. That'
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uf As. "OW.
2 Q. You have had a chance, I take it, to review this Westlaw
3 report prior to this very moment, correct?
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A. No.
QO. iI ask you the same question, Why not?
A. We spent a lot of time thinking about appellate issues,
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Q. Just a few more questions, Ms. Brune. You used the ph
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MR. SHECHTMAN;: I do, your Honor. Would it be an
appropriate time to take a short break?
THE COURT: Yes, it would be.
MS. DAV
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A. Except by jury research I want to be sure you understand.
He had done this database work during jury selection bu
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A. There was no question that he did investigative work in the
wake o
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government and the Court accurately when the issue was
presented.
Q. Is that the ethical standard
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aU Q. The question was that you were willing to provide a
2 complete and accurate set of facts if an
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It's a simple question.
A. The standard
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1 A. Yes.
= Q. You knew that at the time you filed the brief?
3 A. I believed it to be so. My basis for that is when I
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attached that to your July 21st letter, correct?
A. When we submitted the letter, as she had promised to
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convey. As I think I've already said, though, when I reflect
on the brief, I think we missed it.
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the Court.
Q, Do you think it was before the July 1
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1 A. What she did was what the judge had sort of given people
2 the option of saying that they would do, which is
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QO, She is under the same ethical obligations
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iL A. She certainly was aware of what had been done, that's
2 correct.
3 QO. Are you shying away from using
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1 QO. But my question was a far more specific one that you still
2 haven't answered, Ms. Brune.
2 A. I'm going to.
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prominence it has here, I missed the issue, and I really
regret that. It was, I think, a good brief, bu
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A... That's: right.
©. It was filed under your signature?
Ac It was.
Q. With your ECF number?
A.
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of fact in the question, that's all. He's concerne
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found prior to voir dire?
A. Now we're back to the conversation
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lawyers who choose not to practice. What I was very focused on
was her highest level of ed
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Court know.
Q. And you understood that the Court had the resources and
ability to get information on its ow
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them to do, I believe,
Q. And that would have included working late at night,
eerrect?
A. That is for sure.
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A. I certainly did not know.
QO. And you could have turned right around and contacte
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A. Okay, that's fine. It's certainly so that ma
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occurred to you that you could have your team look into this,
correct?
A. I certainly thought, well, here's this
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the same problem of trying to remember what was said
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that Ms. Trzaskoma was, as I now know, investigating via