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C2FFDAU4
Conrad - direct
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
Page 135
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
February 15, 2012
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MR. GAJR: Yes, your Honor.
THE COU
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
February 15, 2012
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL., February 15, 2012
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v
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SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS
February 15, 2012 PAUL M. DAUGERDAS, ET AL.,
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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document613 Filed 02/24/22 Page 39 of 66
the victim of a home invasion to harbor bias against a defendant accused of such a
crime.” Id.
The same is true here: “It would be nat
Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document545- Filed 12/15/21 Page3of9
(AKT), 2017 WL 3037408, at *9 (E.D.N.Y. July 17, 2017) (“[T]here is a presumption disfavoring
attorney depositions which is based on the re
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The Honorable Alison J. Nathan
December 8, 2021
Page 5
Q. Did you keep this document, an electronic copy of it, on your personal
computer?
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The Honorable Alison J. Nathan
December 8, 2021
Page 4
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